FF3 and Safari

Looks like Firefox 3 was the motivation I needed to switch entirely to Safari. The thing that pushed me over the edge was the "open all in tabs" feature.

I use the "open all in tabs" feature to reset my workspace. I make a bookmarks folder, and put in there my 9 or 10 sites that I use most frequently, or perhaps a folder of all the work-related websites. I then click on that folder, and "open all in tabs" to get my workspace where it needs to be to work on it. I do this dozens of times per day.

In Firefox 3, instead of resetting the workspace - that is, closing existing tabs and opening the new ones instead, it opens the new ones in addition to what's already open, giving me a growing number of tabs, rather than my desired workspace.

In Safari, not only does it open just the ones I want, rather than adding to the existing, but it's got this cool single-click feature, where I can mark the folder as a one-click workspace, and it just does what I want on one click.

So, this morning I imported all my Firefox bookmarks into Safari, and set Safari as my default browser. What with the theme change in Firefox, it seemed like a good time to do that - the new Firefox theme is no more strange than switching to Safari.

Strangely, the new Firefox didn't noticeably improve anything, or provide any shiny new functionality (at least that I noticed), and broke a feature that I rely on all day, and didn't address any of the things that make Firefox so annoying to me (bookmark management being one area where Safari is worlds better than FF). So I really would have been better off just sticking with the old version. So strange.


7 Responses to FF3 and Safari

  1. 30787 jink 2008-06-19 11:28:01

    For exactly that, I use Tab Mix Plus. Does a wonderful job, all the time. Haven't tested it with Firefox 3 yet, however.

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1122

  2. 30793 Chris Dary 2008-06-19 11:41:51

    Rich, I'm at about the same place you are - I've got a couple things that are keeping me from switching to safari completely:

    1. ctrl-tab. I can't stand not having tab switching be ctrl-tab.

    2. firebug

    If those two bits were in safari, I'd be switching immediately.

  3. 30806 rbowen 2008-06-19 13:07:08

    Gillis,

    According to addons.mozilla.org, "This add-on is for older versions of Firefox."

  4. 31082 Billy 2008-06-20 12:10:31

    If you haven't looked at the new WebInspector in the WebKit nightlies, with its integrated debugger, profiler, and other tools...

    well, lets just say if you had, you wouldn't be longing for Firebug.

  5. 31083 MJR's slef-reflections: Firefox 3, day 3: first impressions 2008-06-20 12:11:18

    ...press
    seem to be working nicely
    but while I'm not annoyed enough to switch browsers yet (unlike
    FF3 and Safari - DrBacchus' Journal),
    there are still a hell of a lot of niggles and interface bugs.
    Some of the problems may have been...

  6. 31215 Alex Elsayed 2008-06-22 20:12:08

    There's an about:config variable covering that. They changed the default in Firefox 3 because that exact behavior has garnered the most complaints of almost any design decision in Firefox. To get the old "replace" behavior, just set

    browser.tabs.loadFolderAndReplace

    to true.

    (I learned this for the inverse reason - I like keeping enormous sessions, and want to open all of my daily sites and close them as I read them rather than nuking all of the stuff I'm already using.)

  7. 31373 rbowen 2008-06-23 08:19:14

    Alex,

    Thanks for the tip, but, no, it was already set to 'true', and still has the undesirable (by me) behavior. It's interesting that the one feature that generates complaints is the one that, when it goes away, makes me stop using the product. I guess I'm just ... different.

    I can live with that.

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